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The Lost Mods ([personal profile] thelostmods) wrote in [community profile] wethelostooc2019-07-20 03:47 pm
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Event: The Leopard's Spots (Update #6)

With the shapeshifter captured, we have reached the home stretch! Please check out the new Part 4 starter for speaking with a very angry (but currently cooperative) cat. Time to clear up what's been going on!

Additionally, once your character has had a chance to get answers to their burning questions, please use this post for discussion of how your character(s) would like to resolve this situation. The two main questions to keep in mind are:

1. What does your character think should be done with the totem?

2. What does your character think should be done with the captured shapeshifter?


Please take your time finding out all the information you need to know in order to make those decisions. I'll keep an eye on this post and answer any logistical questions that come up. Thank you!


General Status Updates, July 25:

After the people of the Meadous have talked with Okota and the other NPCs, the general attitude of the NPCs is as follows:

1. Okota is becoming grudgingly willing to at least consider foregoing their attempt to revert their people to total savagery in favor of influencing the world in smaller ways, but they're clearly not thrilled about it and there's a clear risk that they'll go back to their old ways if left to their own devices.

2. Tawnya and Mitch are willing to take guardianship of Okota, but only if they have some way to keep a god in check. Summer is on board with a rehabilitation effort and will also assist. They acknowledge that a few of the points Okota has made about the negative effects of conformity and a move away from instinctive behavior are true, but on the whole they find her views extreme and are strongly opposed to her original plan.

3. Wyatt just wants to hide the totem, and can be persuaded to leave it in the Meadous.

4. Several players have suggested devices to help Mitch and Tawnya keep Okota in check. Currently those suggestions include a cage that can contain Okota in any form and a tracking device Okota can't remove. Each device would cost 1,000 wishing points; there will be another update on Saturday to gather points from any characters who want to contribute to one or more wishes.


The deadline for voting on solutions is Sunday, July 28, at 11:59 PST.

Update, July 29: Voting is now closed. Thank you all for your input!
rubikscomplex: (cane | default)

[personal profile] rubikscomplex 2019-07-20 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
1. House wants the Meadous to keep the totem so they can study it.

2. He doesn't care what happens to the shapeshifter as long as she gets shoved back in to her world.
harmony_city: (Default)

[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-24 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
1. Most of the NPCs except Okota are pretty okay with this idea, but at present Wyatt is very concerned the totem will be misused somehow if he leaves it with Meadous folks. No one actually has to listen to him, though, and he doesn't have a safer hiding place to suggest.

2. All the NPCs except Okota are a bit alarmed at the suggestion of just putting her back. Okota gets dramatic about how they might as well just kill her and eat her already if they're not going to give the totem back.

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[personal profile] sleight_of_fate 2019-07-21 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Rhys is very wary about sending the totems back to Harmony City and thinks that maybe putting them somewhere else, even the Meadous, might be a better idea. Keeping the shapeshifter hostage might be a difficult idea, however, and he's not sure what the right answer for that is.

He's also worried about whatever magic remains in the ruins and will likely go back and give them a thorough combing-over before deciding what he recommends.
harmony_city: (Default)

[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-21 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
When does he visit the ruins in relation to when they captured Okota? He would probably have access to the information that there’s a grand opening planned for Black Rock Park the afternoon of that same day.
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[personal profile] jumpthegun 2019-07-23 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
1. John thinks they should let Wyatt decide what to do with the totem... unless that decision involves giving the totem to Okota. In which case, he's a hormonal, confused teenager and they should destroy that totem or keep it out of reach of Okota some other way. He would go to solicit Wyatt's opinion on it after letting him know they caught Okota.

2. Mostly, he wants to hand Okota over to Officer Wagner and Officer Grayson-Bones to deal with. Realistically, he's not sure they're equipped to contain something like her. He'd suggest some sort of magic cage wished for by Zephyr that could hold Okota in whatever form she chooses. And then some sort of... attempted rehabilitation of the god? Or bringing Okota into the modern century.
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[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-24 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
1. Wyatt wants to hide the totem. He's not sure where or how or if that'll actually help, and he has clearly failed at doing this himself already. It's probably worth remembering that we know a.) a paradigm shift occurred when Summer and Wyatt's ancestor removed the totem from the temple and b.) Sir Walter Hoofmann rediscovered the totem at an archaeological site on a completely different continent from Harmony City.

2. Mitch and Tawnya feel very unequipped to hold a god captive, but are cautiously willing to commit to this plan if they have some way of keeping Okota in check. After speaking with Okota, Summer is (maybe surprisingly) the most enthusiastic of the NPCs regarding a plan to attempt rehabilitation.

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[personal profile] howdull 2019-07-24 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Sherlock wants to keep the totem in the Meadous, both for study and because it's harmful to Harmony City.

2. He would suggest that Okota be fitted with a GPS tracker (maybe a sub-dermal implant so it's not easily removed), and then released back into their world with instructions to check in with the police like in a parole program.
harmony_city: (Default)

[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-24 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
1. As noted above, most of the NPCs except Okota are pretty okay with this idea, but at present Wyatt is still concerned the totem will be misused somehow if he leaves it with Meadous folks. The word "study" isn't helping. No one actually has to listen to him, though, and he doesn't have a safer hiding place to suggest.

2. This is doable! The police in question would like some kind of safeguard for if Okota decides to just break parole.
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[personal profile] telecosmetic 2019-07-26 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
1. Eliza thinks keeping the totem in the Meadous is for the best, but she does want Wyatt to have some way to keep in contact, to reassure him more. She'd ask Zephyr how much energy they'd need to keep a channel of communication open between the worlds.

2. She agrees with the parole plan, and thinks a communication channel might also be helpful here.
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[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-27 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
1. In order for letters to be passed between worlds, the gods of both worlds would need to cooperate--so they'd have to get Okota to agree to send them. I apologize for having the kids ask for that and making it seem like a potential condition for leaving the totem; it's not going to be something characters need to arrange in order to be able to keep the totem. If they can get Okota to send/receive letters there's no cost to doing so, and I will say that at present (at least given the general direction of the votes re: what to do with Okota so far) I don't expect communications to be entirely closed off.

2. Noted, thank you!

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[personal profile] 0thingsonmymind 2019-07-27 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
1) brian wants to let wyatt shoot the wheel into space.

he has no opion on 2 caue gods are idk
harmony_city: (Default)

[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-27 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
yeet that shit
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[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-27 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
In all seriousness though, wishing for a rocket with which to shoot the totem into space is an option. Would you like to add it to the list of wishes to which people can contribute? There would also need to be a majority vote to send the totem into space.

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[personal profile] ignes_fatui 2019-07-27 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
  1. Ienzo's more than a little anxious about the idea of stealing a god's power permanently even if it's clear that Okota can't be trusted with it, and will suggest it be brought back to Harmony City and hidden from her. He's willing to help work out the details of this if others are on board.

  2. He's similarly wary about sending Okota back in a cage, but admits that that's probably the safest way. He'll also suggest some kind of visible marking (eg. odd eyes, specific coloration) that they can't shapeshift away or hide in order to keep them from impersonating others. His hope is that she can be talked around to his social reform idea and eventually released, but he recognizes that might be a bit optimistic.
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[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-28 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
1. If they decide to go this route, they do have historical precedent to examine re: where Brother Gray hid it (or at least where Hoofmann found it thousands of years later).

2. Perhaps in horror at the possibility that some kind of permanence could be forced on her, Okota will reveal at this point that she's only able to impersonate specific people if they are already deep under her influence, and inducing that state is only possible when she has both her totem and her temple in relatively close proximity.

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[personal profile] bywolves 2019-07-27 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Royce isn't particularly like... interested in arguing or debating or anything and won't lobby real hard in any direction. He's pretty against putting Okota in a cage/the tracking device, but after the last event he refuses to get up in arms about it, so he just offers his opinion once and then fucks off into the ether.

He also doesn't really have any other solutions so he's leaning towards keeping the totem in the Meadous so they can figure out how to maybe like. Destroy it or something.

That being said his opinions are: one keep the totem in the Meadous and two put that shapeshifter back where they came from or so help him
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[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-28 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Noted! Okota is horrified at any suggestion that the totem might be destroyed (assuming he says it in front of her), but would appreciate at least one (1) vote against a cage and tracker.
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[personal profile] obeir 2019-07-28 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Daryl: Would like to return the totem to Okota and return Okota to her world, with the hope that she'll agree to be chill and go easy on reverting her people completely — instead influencing the world in smaller ways so there won't be total anarchy and broken families everywhere. He's vehemently against any sort of cage or tracking implant!!! and would freely and loudly voice this opinion. He knows he's going to be in the minority though, unfortunately. If anyone tries arguing with him he'll probably just bite them tbh. So probably best to leave the anger catte be.

K: Is less certain what to do with the totem but doesn't want to destroy it. I think ultimately he'd vote to keep the totem in the Meadous if it can't be returned to where it's meant to be (could Zephyr take possession of it without being harmed?) and also wants to return Okota to her world with hopes of rehabilitation, presumably through the police. Except he's similarly very against any kind of cage or tracking implant and would voice this opinion, but isn't inclined to get bitey like Daryl over it. He'll probably sadface and apologise to Okota if she ends up caged or implanted (they could be tracking implant buddies :c), though.

Daryl and K would both be on board with Eliza's communication channel idea, too, and would be willing to communicate with Okota in the future if she wants to.
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harmony_city: (Ocelot - Okota)

[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-28 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Okota is super into Daryl's plan! Give her totem pls. She's also glad to have some voices against the cage and tracker, ugh, what human ideas. Finally, she's more receptive to suggestions re: open communications from Daryl in particular; it's sounding promising on her end.

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[personal profile] aigue 2019-07-28 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
Firstly, Renart would like to bring Summer in to have a chat with Okota. An OOC summary is all that's needed for that!

Secondly, Renart would be echoing K's views: keep the totem in the Meadous, return Okota for rehabilitation, and keep a communication channel open to make sure things don't go south. She's also very against a tracking implant and cage for obvious reasons and would make her opinion known.
harmony_city: (Coyote - Summer Grayson-Bones)

[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-28 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Summer is nervous going into the conversation with Okota. It seems she was right to be--as soon as Okota sees the coyote, she starts hissing and spitting and hurling accusations that Summer is a heretic, the descendant and the mother of thieves. It briefly looks like Summer is going to retreat with her tail between her legs, but she abruptly finds her resolve and locks eyes with Okota...and surprisingly, when she demands Okota stop her snarling and speak with her, Okota does so.

Being in Okota's presence and discussing what happened when the totem was originally stolen seems to unlock more of the ancestral memories Ienzo discovered Summer possesses, and she begins to argue on behalf of Brother Gray, the coyote who first stole the totem and caused the downfall of Okota's religion. Summer and Okota disagree vehemently on the causes and effects. Okota argues that Brother Gray and his cohort took away the gifts of all the other mammals to selfishly force them to adapt to a new civilization that best suited the coyotes, raccoons, and rats. Summer argues that Okota was holding them back--that the truce at the old temple to allow visitors to worship without fear of being eaten was proof that mammals could coexist peacefully without eating one another, and that Okota and the faithful members of their priesthood were forcing violence on a world whose people no longer wanted to live in the old ways.

Following the conversation, Summer's position is this:
1. She stands by what Brother Gray did--unchecked in the old days, Okota and their priesthood had actively prevented the mammals from developing a peaceful multispecies society. She does not want the totem returned to Okota.
2. She feels sorry for Okota, but does not trust them. She does not want to enact revenge or punishment, but she does want to prevent Okota from hurting people (including enacting their plan to turn people savage).
3. Summer was able to get Okota to confirm during the conversation that her aspect is Instinct. Summer thinks that instinct is not without its place in the modern world--indeed, she muses that Wyatt seems to have the totem based on an instinctual reaction to being in its presence.
zunesareawesome: (Action - +1 science)

[personal profile] zunesareawesome 2019-07-29 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
1. Peter thinks it should be kept in the Meadous and far away away from Harmony City as possible. Possibly even to destroy it later. Agrees with Brian in yeeting it into space.

2. In his experience with gods who have great plans and think they know better than everybody, he would not be willing to trust Okota at all, ever, and doesn't think they could be rehabilitated. He's also pissed off at what happened to him and like, they really could solve this problem by just killing her... Not that he really means it?

Maybe?

They could just yeet her into space too.
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harmony_city: (Leopard - Okota)

[personal profile] harmony_city 2019-07-29 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
1. Noted! Since we're so close to the deadline, if the totem stays in the Meadous and enough characters do want to yeet it into space, we will handle a rocket-related wish for that later.

2. Okota indicates that yeeting her into space would accomplish the first suggestion of killing her, and tells Peter he's a goddamn savage for not killing her with his own teeth and eating her carcass. She's been saying that one to a lot of people, though.

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